I am back from Five Guys' corporate training and wanted to pass along an amazing story about buns. More on the training experience in a later post.
First of all, 5 Guys' buns are great, which I did not expect. I spent a decent time behind the grill over the past couple of days and can tell you that the smell as they're grilled is pretty intoxicating. They hold up well to the patties and toppings, and actually stay more solid than you would think after being wrapped with meat and toppings in foil for 10 minutes or more. They are also expensive; how expensive they are is apparently a trade secret, but I will say that it's more than you pay at the grocery store. 5 Guys is about a great burger and fries experience, not low price, so it makes sense for franchisees to pay a little extra for a better quality product.
The buns are 100% trans-fat free. The interesting story for me is that this is true because Five Guys expanded into New York City, which restricts "trans fats" in restaurants. This regulation forced Five Guys to alter their recipe to gain entry to that very lucrative market. It's not really feasible to have one recipe for NYC and another for the nation, so as a result, the bun recipe changed everywhere. So, now every Five Guys in the nation has trans-fat free buns.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, Five Guys is not health food and shouldn't be confused for that. That said, I found it amazing that New York passing a law changes how buns are served in Colorado, Utah, South Carolina, Virginia, and everywhere else.
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Tuesday, December 16, 2008
Phantom Gourmet on Five Guys
Our neighbor franchisee, Sean Olson, recently had the Phantom Gourmet visit his store to shoot a video and review the burgers. Here's that video, courtesy of Christine Dykes of Conviser Group (his real estate broker):
Take a look -- definitely worth the 4 minute time investment to get a sense of what the fuss is all about.
Take a look -- definitely worth the 4 minute time investment to get a sense of what the fuss is all about.
Management
We are in the process of hiring our first General Manager, who we hope will become a partner in the business as it grows into what should be a $25M enterprise. This is not a post about that process (more on that when it's actually complete). It is a post on why we believe management matters and are willing to buy more than we need on day one.
First, an anecdote about getting our Marlborough store built. The process begins with architectural plans submitted to 5 Guys, who wants to make sure that we stuffed enough tables into the space and actually have a kitchen and bathrooms. Fair enough. This part was pain-free for us as we hired an architect who has done 5 Guys stores before and appears to be at the top of their game. Then, the plans are submitted along with a form to the Health Department in Marlborough, along with a check to cover the application fee.
That last piece is mundane, but think for a second about what has to happen there. They start the form. We have to finish the form, and someone has to write the check and mail it in. Mediocre management - which is inexpensive, easy-to-find, and retained by continuing to pay a salary - means they start the form, mail it to us, and then we mail it back to them along with a check, and then they mail it in to the town. This is how it's typically done, and it eats probably 7 business days.
Or, we could collaborate on filling it out, either electronically via email or over the phone, and then they could mail it in that day by writing the check themselves and billing us later. Thinking creatively about this is what good management gets you. Why does this matter? In 5 Guys world, getting open 7 days earlier equals thousands in cash flow. And cash flow is a linchpin of building a big fast-casual dining business.
Yes, great management is indeed more expensive, hard-to-find, and trickier to motivate and retain. But it is indispensable, which is why we are focused on hiring someone who can become a partner.
First, an anecdote about getting our Marlborough store built. The process begins with architectural plans submitted to 5 Guys, who wants to make sure that we stuffed enough tables into the space and actually have a kitchen and bathrooms. Fair enough. This part was pain-free for us as we hired an architect who has done 5 Guys stores before and appears to be at the top of their game. Then, the plans are submitted along with a form to the Health Department in Marlborough, along with a check to cover the application fee.
That last piece is mundane, but think for a second about what has to happen there. They start the form. We have to finish the form, and someone has to write the check and mail it in. Mediocre management - which is inexpensive, easy-to-find, and retained by continuing to pay a salary - means they start the form, mail it to us, and then we mail it back to them along with a check, and then they mail it in to the town. This is how it's typically done, and it eats probably 7 business days.
Or, we could collaborate on filling it out, either electronically via email or over the phone, and then they could mail it in that day by writing the check themselves and billing us later. Thinking creatively about this is what good management gets you. Why does this matter? In 5 Guys world, getting open 7 days earlier equals thousands in cash flow. And cash flow is a linchpin of building a big fast-casual dining business.
Yes, great management is indeed more expensive, hard-to-find, and trickier to motivate and retain. But it is indispensable, which is why we are focused on hiring someone who can become a partner.
Thursday, December 4, 2008
Great advice from George Naddaff
I met with George Naddaff today -- he took Boston Chicken public and is currently the Chairman and CEO of UFoodGrill, which apparently combines taste with health. At 5 Guys, we don't exactly position ourselves that way. Five Guys' head of NE Franchise Development is named McGuire; legally he's Matt McGuire, but his business card has only one name it. I heard him tell an ICSC audience "We're not healthy", to which half the people in the darkened room stood up and cheered.
Anyway, George was very generous with his time and gave us some advice on making sure that our business is successful and that our customers are happy. Here are some of the highlights:
Anyway, George was very generous with his time and gave us some advice on making sure that our business is successful and that our customers are happy. Here are some of the highlights:
- Burgers, chicken and pizza are forever
- 5 Guys is a great concept - Most businesses never get to first base, but you just bought your way onto 3rd base. That's great. But it's not 5 Guys' job to get you to home plate. Follow their formula to the letter. Your job is locations and people.
- Make sure the first store is a huge success - the cash from store #1 is what enables the buildout of store #2 and the ability to raise subsequent debt. It is easy to get excited about the challenge of opening so many stores in such a small amount of time, but don't. Get that store right before tackling too many others.
- Hire really good food people - don't skimp on talent who knows the quick serve business. Get someone who knows how to train in languages other than English. I love the food business, and you seem like smart guys and are asking the right questions, but food is the hardest business in the world.
- Don't pick free-standing spots - in your territory, most of them are abandoned gas stations anyway.
- Rent should be no more than 10% of your sales, and preferably closer to 7%.
Wednesday, November 19, 2008
A Good Burger is About More than Food
First of all, welcome to readers of A Hamburger Today, one of the best burger blogs I've found so far. There's a link to the blog on the side for anyone wants to check it out.
We are well into our search for our first store general manager. Through ads in the Boston Globe (semi-productive) and several online resources (much more productive - not a good omen for newspaper people), we found a number of good candidates and are starting to zero in on the right person.
Who is the right person?
Marc and I have a certain business philosophy, which is that no matter what product you buy, the service is a key point. We leave perfecting the burger concoctions to the experts: Five Guys and the customer. Among many other things, the manager's job is to make sure that the environment in which you experience the burger is the best it can be. Here are a few things about what that means:
The store is clean
This is so obvious that it seems strange to write it. However, it is actually difficult to achieve. This is especially true in a store that is physically too small -- so, as partners we are nervous about stores with small footprint. But when a candidate notices the crumbs on the radiator at Panera (our "office" while we conduct interviews), that stands out because we want our management to be obsessed with this. Tables should be cleaned. Trash should not be full. And yes, this philosophy extends to clean bathrooms.
Orders come consistently
Five Guys is *not* a fast-food restaurant. Even so, it has a standard for how many minutes (7) one is supposed to wait for an order, even at busy times. What's almost as important as how quickly it comes is consistency of order turnaround time. Most people would more happily wait 8 minutes every time than 5 minutes most times, but 13 minutes other times. The same applies for almost anything, by the way - human beings like consistency.
Staff is professional and polite
Starbucks is a great business (their real estate overexpansion notwithstanding) in large part because they have figured out that customer experience depends on their "associates" who interact with customers. Five Guys is not a coffeehouse (thank goodness), but applies many of the same principles. Check out sign they post on the front of the soda dispenser next time you are in a store and you will see what I mean. How a manager plans to work with staff to reduce turnover, keep people properly trained, deal proactively with disciplinary issues, and run a smooth-flowing line - and how they have done so successfully in the past - is something that we are watching closely.
There are many other attributes, but fundamentally, you want your experience to be about the food, not why the store was out of straws. That's management. If that's solid, you'll rave about the burgers -- of that, we are confident.
We are well into our search for our first store general manager. Through ads in the Boston Globe (semi-productive) and several online resources (much more productive - not a good omen for newspaper people), we found a number of good candidates and are starting to zero in on the right person.
Who is the right person?
Marc and I have a certain business philosophy, which is that no matter what product you buy, the service is a key point. We leave perfecting the burger concoctions to the experts: Five Guys and the customer. Among many other things, the manager's job is to make sure that the environment in which you experience the burger is the best it can be. Here are a few things about what that means:
The store is clean
This is so obvious that it seems strange to write it. However, it is actually difficult to achieve. This is especially true in a store that is physically too small -- so, as partners we are nervous about stores with small footprint. But when a candidate notices the crumbs on the radiator at Panera (our "office" while we conduct interviews), that stands out because we want our management to be obsessed with this. Tables should be cleaned. Trash should not be full. And yes, this philosophy extends to clean bathrooms.
Orders come consistently
Five Guys is *not* a fast-food restaurant. Even so, it has a standard for how many minutes (7) one is supposed to wait for an order, even at busy times. What's almost as important as how quickly it comes is consistency of order turnaround time. Most people would more happily wait 8 minutes every time than 5 minutes most times, but 13 minutes other times. The same applies for almost anything, by the way - human beings like consistency.
Staff is professional and polite
Starbucks is a great business (their real estate overexpansion notwithstanding) in large part because they have figured out that customer experience depends on their "associates" who interact with customers. Five Guys is not a coffeehouse (thank goodness), but applies many of the same principles. Check out sign they post on the front of the soda dispenser next time you are in a store and you will see what I mean. How a manager plans to work with staff to reduce turnover, keep people properly trained, deal proactively with disciplinary issues, and run a smooth-flowing line - and how they have done so successfully in the past - is something that we are watching closely.
There are many other attributes, but fundamentally, you want your experience to be about the food, not why the store was out of straws. That's management. If that's solid, you'll rave about the burgers -- of that, we are confident.
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